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12:22AMApril 19 2021Daniel Tompkins

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03/​12 Fish Fry Ker­fuffle

If you're fa­miliar with the Chris­tian ob­ser­va­tion of Lent— meat is for­bidden on Fri­days. As a re­sult, a lot of churches host Friday-night fish fry din­ners, and I had been leaving to pick up my bat­tered cod dinner.

Someone showed me an in­teract fish fry map that'd been coded by Code for Pitts­burgh. Side note: Code for Pitts­burgh looks like a re­ally cool gang of like-minded coders, and they've built some neat stuff to­gether.

Screenshot from the official 2021 Pittsburgh Lenten Fish Fry Map from Code for Pittsburgh
Screenshot from the official 2021 Pittsburgh Lenten Fish Fry Map from Code for Pittsburgh

Using the map, I picked out a church in nearby Shady­side. We pre-or­dered two fried fish sand­wiches for pickup at 5:45pm. Nat­u­rally, I was late, rushing to the car at 5:50pm, I rolled (it's low) into the front seat and slammed the doors. I could see the tartar sauce in my mind's eye ...

Then I turned the key ... nothing. Far too many of us have been in the same gut-wrenching sit­u­a­tion. If you're less un­lucky, you might still hear a click— or see the flash of a dash icon.

The stakes were still pretty low. I've been working re­motely since Sep­tember 2020. So, I'm blessed that I wasn't re­lying on the car to get to my job. In the grand scheme of things (WFH, pan­demic, in the garage, on a Friday), this was prob­ably the best-case sce­nario for a dead bat­tery.

Jump-Starting a Dead Bat­tery

My neighbor hap­pened to be pulling into the dri­veway next door. So, in des­per­a­tion, I hur­riedly asked if I could get a jump. If you're like me and al­ways forget the con­nec­tion steps, enjoy this beau­tiful il­lus­tra­tion by yours truly:

Diagram showing connection steps for jumper cables. First connect to the dead battery's positive post (1), then the running battery's positive post (2) with the red/white cable. Next, connect the negative post (3) of the running car's battery. Lastly, connect to the metal frame (4) or other exposed ground on the dead car.

Ap­par­ently, you can also go from the run­ning car's frame (#3), and con­nect (#4) to the dead bat­tery's neg­a­tive post. How­ever, the above order is what I've most com­monly seen (you're wel­come fu­ture, stranded self).

We hooked up the ca­bles. To my un­der­standing, the al­ter­nator spins faster when you rev the en­gine— and, con­se­quently, out­puts a higher am­perage. So, holding the pedal at about 2000 RPM might be pro­duc­tive— es­pe­cially for bigger en­gines.

This should put out be­tween 14V and 15V from an idling ve­hicle. If you mea­sure less than 13V across the bat­tery's posts while the car is run­ning, then it's more likely you have an issue with your al­ter­nator (which charges the bat­tery).

We must have let his car rev for at least 5 min­utes without a click, blink or whisper from our Camry. In a last ditch, I tried biting into the bat­tery's ter­mi­nals using the jumper ca­ble's copper al­li­gator-teeth— still nothing. I thanked my neighbor for trying, but it seemed toasted— kaput.

Alas, it was not our des­tiny to taste the but­tery, fishy flavor that night.

03/​13 Camry De­bug­ging

To recap: Fish Friday. Yet no tangy-sweet tartar sauce.

My fi­ancée and I ac­tu­ally at­tempted (after some rapid de­lib­er­a­tion) to bi­cycle across Pitts­burgh's East End to the church.

Un­for­tu­nately, the hills of Pitts­burgh are un­for­giving to flat-land Illi­noisers like my­self. We also re­al­ized, after about a half-mile of biking, that the kitchen would def­i­nitely be closed by the time we would ar­rive.

I called the church, and they kindly said they'd comp the din­ners we'd or­dered for the next Friday. Without any pressing ap­point­ments or plans for the weekend, I made it pri­ority one to get the car run­ning— and to get those bat­tered cods in one week's time.

Under the Hood

Sat­urday was an un­sea­son­ably beau­tiful day for March in Pitts­burgh; so, I opened the garage door and ducked under the hood of the Camry. The first thing that stood out was the cor­ro­sion all over the bat­tery's posts. It was heckin crusty and gross. 👇

That white (or bluish-green) pow­dery stuff is ap­par­ently ei­ther lead sul­fate or an­hy­drous copper sul­fate. As this cor­ro­sion builds up, so does the bat­tery's re­sis­tance. No good.

I dug through the mantle of powder with the mul­ti­meter probes to find that the bat­tery was re­porting a mere 1.79V. That's close to 10% of the bat­tery's full ca­pacity.

Example of lead-acid battery post corrosion
Example of lead-acid battery post corrosion

That nasty busi­ness is lead sul­fate or an­hy­drous copper sul­fate. Hy­drating an­hy­drous copper sul­fate gives it the green or blue tinge. This NOCO blog post was a great re­source for un­der­standing bat­tery main­te­nance and safety— plus I re­ally liked the graphics.

Since the jump didn't work and the bat­tery was reading an in­cred­ibly low voltage, my con­clu­sion was that it needed to be re­placed.

It's super easy to get the bat­tery out. Doing this job on a Camry, a 10mm socket (I rec­om­mend a little box-end too for the ter­minal clamps) is prob­ably the only tool you re­ally need.

I rec­om­mend loos­ening the nut on each bat­tery ter­minal clamp be­fore the bolt tying this bracket to the frame. I made the mis­take of taking off the bracket first and it was a pain to break the cor­roded nuts loose on the ter­mi­nals with the bat­tery loosy-goosy.

Once you get the front bolt out, there's a hooked ten­sion-rod on the back that will need to drop down. Then you can pretty easily re­move the bracket en­tirely. If you do it this way, you might be able to avoid dealing with the ten­sioning bolt at he other end of the bracket (see the image below).

Corroded battery still installed in Camry's engine bay. Red circle showing post-clamp tightening nut and the main bolt for the battery-retaining clamp bracket.
Corroded battery still installed in Camry's engine bay. Red circle showing post-clamp tightening nut and the main bolt for the battery-retaining clamp bracket.
Corroded Toyota 2010 Camry battery sitting on the garage floor next to crescent wrenches and battery clamping bracket for mounting in car.
Corroded Toyota 2010 Camry battery sitting on the garage floor next to crescent wrenches and battery clamping bracket for mounting in car.

Re­ally only 2 nuts and 1 bolt to get the bat­tery out. Both the ter­minal clamp nuts and the bolt tying the bat­tery bracket to the front of the car frame use a 10mm socket.

With the bat­tery fi­nally out, I looked around the out­side to find a long string of let­ters and num­bers that had been heat-stamped into the plastic:

The first letter refers to the month it was man­u­fac­tured: A-L refers to Jan­uary – De­cember. The number refers to the year in which the bat­tery was made. For ex­ample: 2 would be 2012, 3 would be 2013, 4 would be 2014, etc. The last letter refers to the plant in which the bat­tery was made.1

My Toyota-man­u­fac­tured bat­tery had the number "8". Since the av­erage lifespan of a normal car bat­tery is be­tween 2-5 years, it was most likely man­u­fac­tured in 2018.2 R.I.P. bat­tery, I promise to take better care of the next one.

Costco Mem­ber­ship

There are a couple stores (Au­to­Zone, Ad­vance Auto Parts, O' Reilly Auto Parts, Fire­stone, etc.) that will ap­par­ently test your bat­tery for free. If you have a spare, it might be good to clean up the dead bat­tery and take it over to them. You could find out if your bat­tery is def­i­nitely shot or if the problem might lie else­where.

I was eager to get this fixed, so I went ahead and de­cided to pur­chase a new bat­tery. Like any product, there are good and bad man­u­fac­turers. It can be helpful to read re­views and make sure you're get­ting your mon­ey's worth.

The only two things that are re­ally im­por­tant in pur­chasing a new bat­tery are the bat­tery "group" and the cold-cranking amps (CCA). The 2010 Camry uses group 24F, and the CCA needs to meet or ex­ceed 582 (the CCA on the orig­inal, Toyota-man­u­fac­tured bat­tery). A quick cost-com­par­ison among some of the nearby stores yielded these re­sults:

storeprice + coreCCAwar­ranty
Ad­vance Auto Parts $169.99 + $22.007503-year free re­place­ment
Au­to­Zone $169.99 + $18.007503-year war­ranty
Costco $89.99 + $15.007003-year lim­ited war­ranty
Home Depot $99.00 + $15.0075030-month free re­place­ment
O' Reilly Auto Parts $134.99 + $18.007003-year free re­place­ment
Wal­mart $98.76 + ?7503-year free re­place­ment
Battery comparison. April, 4th 2021.

The cheapest op­tions by far were Costco, Wal­mart, and Home Depot. The "core" charge was a new con­cept to me (someone who has done little to no car re­pair); but it's im­por­tant to note:

Cer­tain types of auto parts can be re­cy­cled or, more specif­i­cally, re­man­u­fac­tured for fu­ture sale. These parts have a core price that is used as a form of de­posit on the por­tion of the part that can be re­man­u­fac­tured and that is de­signed to en­courage re­turn of the old part. The "core", simply put, is your old part. Re­turning cores can save you money on re­place­ment parts.3

TL;DR

Make sure you re­cycle your old bat­tery in­stead of tossing it out the window, be­cause it will prob­ably save you $20 on the new one— and keeping a bat­tery out of the land­fill pre­vents toxic chem­i­cals from leaching into the soil and ground­water!

Wal­mart didn't seem to ad­ver­tise their core charge; re­gard­less, I somehow con­vinced my­self that the $60 Costco mem­ber­ship might be worth the $10 of sav­ings for a Costco bat­tery...

A gen­erous friend gave me a ride to a nearby ware­house. This was my first time within 100 feet of a Costco, and that de­serves its own story... but I'll stay on topic.

The sales rep rec­om­mended the ($120) "Gold Star Ex­ec­u­tive" mem­ber­ship and de­scribed the rea­sons why that was the way to go. There was vis­ible dis­ap­point­ment when I re­vealed that I had knowl­edge of the $60 op­tion.

After some very un­com­fort­able back-and-forth, I signed my soul away and got my pic­ture printed on the plastic ad­mis­sion to the cap­i­talist ware­house of won­ders (in bulk). We got back and plopped in the new bat­tery. I hooked the ten­sion rod back be­hind and tight­ened down the front of the bracket to the frame. There were a few ar­ti­cles on­line that rec­om­mended a mix­ture of baking soda and water for cleaning up the cor­ro­sion.

I soaked the ter­minal clamps, then brushed off the re­maining cor­ro­sion with a stiff-wired brush. The same ar­ti­cles rec­om­mended using di­elec­tric grease to pre­vent cor­ro­sion on the bat­tery posts. I didn't have that readily avail­able; but ap­par­ently pe­tro­leum jelly can be used as a sub­sti­tute.4

The neg­a­tive post gave a sat­is­fying pop when I touched it back to­gether— that's just an eager arc of elec­tricity from com­pleting the cir­cuit to all the car's elec­tronics. This time, when I turned the key, I could heard the fa­miliar chunk-chunk of the starter be­fore the en­gine revved to life. Suc­cess!

3/​19 Charge Your New Bat­tery

One week later, I was swim­ming in con­fi­dence and ex­cite­ment. I had com­pleted an­other suc­cessful home auto re­pair that had un­doubt­edly saved me hun­dreds of dol­lars in gen­uine Toyota parts, labor and B.S.

We were once again ready for de­li­cious, holy fried fish. It was al­ready paid for during the prior week's bat­tery de­bacle. I rolled into the front seat, turned the key... and once again, the fa­miliar fading dash lights of a dead bat­tery.

Inconceivable! (animated gif from "The Princess Bride")

This time, we had the time and for­ti­tude to battle the hills of Pitts­burgh. We biked to the church and got our fish sand­wiches. It was worth the trip, but it was still a bit­ter­sweet meal knowing that our bat­tery woes were to be con­tinued...

The next day, I had my neighbor help me jump the car again. Thanks be to Zeus— god of elec­tricity, it started. I swear, Nick, I won't ask you for an­other jump start for the rest of my life.

For real. As soon as we got it started, I drove to the nearest (ac­tu­ally, not the even the nearest) Wal­mart and bought a 120V plug-in charger.

We kept the car run­ning for an­other hour or so, just to make sure the bat­tery was get­ting topped-off.

Testing for Par­a­sitic Draw

Over the course of the next week, I took mea­sure­ments across the bat­tery posts. If the issue had been a par­a­sitic drain— some short along the cir­cuit that was pulling charge off the bat­tery; then I might have had a real problem.

Mea­suring across the ter­mi­nals while the car was run­ning showed over 14V, con­firming that the al­ter­nator was doing its job. After shut-off, the bat­tery mea­sured 12.79V (good). Over the course of a day, the bat­tery dropped to about 12.5V. This seemed con­cerning at first, but then the voltage set­tled at about 12.47V and held.

Just a few minutes after shutting off the car, the battery measures 12.79V across the posts.
Just a few minutes after shutting off the car, the battery measures 12.79V across the posts.

It was a pain in the butt; but I tested the elec­trical system for par­a­sitic draw . I opened up the fuse com­part­ments (there are ac­tu­ally two) on our 2010 Camry.

One is con­ve­niently lo­cated under the hood (near the dri­ver's side), and the other is un­be­liev­ably stupid-silly to get to— just be­hind the "kick-panel" trim (that plastic guard just under the steering wheel).

I wish someone had told me to re­ally, truly ex­haust every pos­sible op­tion be­fore wasting your time hunting for par­a­sitic draw.

To find the source of a par­a­sitic drain on your bat­tery, you es­sen­tially need to probe across every fuse until you find a cir­cuit drawing power. From there, you'd get a ball­park of where to keep looking.

The fuse compartment under the hood of the Camry. Seriously, imagine holding a multimeter probe to each of those tiny, exposed pads on each of those little fuses... no, thanks. Never again.
The fuse compartment under the hood of the Camry. Seriously, imagine holding a multimeter probe to each of those tiny, exposed pads on each of those little fuses... no, thanks. Never again.

Ad­di­tion­ally, to test for par­a­sitic draw cor­rectly, you should re­ally have a charged bat­tery. If you have a charged bat­tery, then you can test voltage drop over time.

If the voltage drops quickly over the course of few hours (or drops below 12V) then you might have a reason to sus­pect par­a­sitic draw. I def­i­nitely rec­om­mend watching this video by Hum­ble­Me­chanic cov­ering par­a­sitic draw and how to test for it.

Car Re­pair Lessons Learned

About a month later now, and time to re­flect. At the end of it all, I think it could have been that the new bat­tery just hadn't reached a full charged.

It had sat for a week in a cold garage. You can't blame me— I'm WFH and we're still in a pan­demic.

My best guess is that the small charge it re­ceived in the post-swap jaunt to the gro­cery store (one week prior) wasn't enough to keep it alive. I'm also con­vinced that one of the cheap USB don­gles I bought at a gas sta­tion was jacked up (pun un­in­tended).

Fin­gers crossed it was a glitch and the new bat­tery will last at least an­other 3 years. At any rate, we now have an emer­gency charger for fu­ture Fish Fry Fri­days.

Footnotes

  1. How to Read US Bat­tery Date Codes. US Bat­tery. April 4th, 2021. https://​www.us­bat­tery.com/​wp-con­tent/​up­loads/​2023/​03/​Read­ing_US­B_­Date­Codes_323.pdf .

  2. The Av­erage Life of Car Bat­teries and 7 Tips to Ex­tend Your Car Bat­tery Life. Na­tion­wide Blog. April 4th, 2021. https://​blog.na­tion­wide.com/​ex­tend-car-bat­tery-life/#:~:​text=On%20av­erage%2C%20car%20­bat­teries%20last,will%20last%20is%20the%20weather .

  3. What is Core? NAPA. April 9th, 2021. https://​www.na­paon­line.com/​en/​what-is-a-core .

  4. How to Clean Bat­tery Ter­mi­nals with Stuff You Al­ready Have. Fire­stone Blog. April 4th, 2021. https://​blog.fire­stonecom­pleteau­to­care.com/​bat­teries/​how-to-clean-bat­tery-ter­mi­nals/ .